Steven Dilley
Dec 13 2006, 03:46 PM
Suzanne, this sounds perhaps like what you were asking about.
QUOTE
A smaller window looks into a kitchen where a skinny dude stands next to a fiercely bubbling wok. With utter nonchalance he thrusts his thumb into a tubular roll of dough, points it at the wok, then slashes at it with a stubby knife like Freddie Kruger. A strip flies off into the broth, then another and another. The speed picks up till he's machine-gunning noodles into the broth, methodically working his way around the surface of the cylinder. The nearly translucent noodles are roughly the size of Band-Aids and have faint serrations along the edges. "In addition to wheat, there's got to be some rice flour in there," observes my friend Zak, who knows his noodles.
Suzanne F
Dec 13 2006, 05:11 PM
That's it exactly! Yay!! Thank you, thank you.
fantasty
Dec 22 2006, 04:33 PM
QUOTE(Abbylovi @ Apr 6 2005, 09:29 AM)
New York Noodletown for...shrimp won ton soup.
Had this last night for the first but certainly not the last time. Delicious stuff, and the leftovers were great for breakfast.
eatpie
Dec 22 2006, 04:52 PM
Had dinner with Ali on Monday night in Chinatown. Went to Hop Lee on Mott St. Very good meal. Highlight was a steamed live chicken w/aged ham. Other notable dishes included razor and another type of clam in a black bean sauce, fried oysters, fried halibut, shrimp stuffed peppers. We ate with one of the main seafood purveyors in Chinatown. He mentioned a positive buzz about a new place located at 66 Mott St. Looking forward to checking it out.
Steven Dilley
Dec 22 2006, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(eatpie @ Dec 22 2006, 12:52 PM)
He mentioned a positive buzz about a new place located at 66 Mott St. Looking forward to checking it out.
I've been tracking this on Chowhound. Amazing 66 or something like that. The food doesn't sound knock-out, but just about everyone who has posted plans on a return visit.
weinoo
Dec 23 2006, 01:40 PM
QUOTE(Suzanne F @ Dec 13 2006, 05:11 PM)
That's it exactly! Yay!! Thank you, thank you.
This place is at 27 Eldridge Street - west side of the street, just south of Canal, downstairs. There are now three hand-pulled noodle places that I know of within a 2 block area...in addition to this one, there is another directly across Eldridge Street, and a third around the corner (previously mentioned) at 28 Forsythe, called Eastern Noodles (which, btw, used to be at 27 Eldridge!!). Eastern is my favorite of the three - the texture of the hand-pulled noodles is amazing...the noodles he uses for his peanut or sesame noodles are not hand-pulled - more like a fettucine style. He also makes some nice dumplings.
Suzanne F
Dec 23 2006, 03:36 PM
Hi, weinoo, nice to see you here!
And thanks for the info -- we (2 Jews-by-birth and a Taiwanese-born Buddhist) are planning on trying Sheng Wang on Monday. Will have a look at all of them, now.
weinoo
Dec 23 2006, 07:27 PM
Hi Suzanne,
Have fun on Monday!!
Suzanne F
Dec 26 2006, 02:15 AM
We did indeed have fun. And a good meal, cheap. Actually, because we ordered so much (three noodle soups, plus an order of Fujianese wonton, a dessert, one soda and a bottle of water), the total came to
$20 for the three of us.
The peel noodles were my preference over the hand-pulled, because they kept their toothsomeness longer. Our friend's hand-pulled with seafood looked very good and included a couple of whole (head-on) shrimp, several 2-inch-long razor clams, and a few other items, plus some tiny bok choy. My peel noodles with 6(!) fish balls also had the tiny bok choy leaves and chopped preserved vegetable (might have been mustard green?), and a tasty broth was a huge portion. And Paul's hand-pulled with "gigot" had very flavorful small cubes of meat and the same vegs. Wonton were handkerchief-thin dough with a tiny blob of tasty ground meat, maybe some poultry in it? The fish balls were about the size of ping pong balls, and held a surprise. Very good.
The dessert was on the order of mochi -- a skin of gluey rice flour around chopped peanuts, in a very sweet-smelling liquid. The liquid is apparently just for cooking and serving, not eating. Which is just as well, because it smelled sort of like bubble gum.
Our friend said this was real comfort food for her, the stuff she grew up on. Paul and I were the only Caucasians there the whole time, but they were very nice to us. Well, why not? We clearly enjoyed it all. And I plan on going back and ordering some of the odder sounding dishes.
Cattle viscera, anyone?
eatpie
Dec 26 2006, 04:01 PM
We had a fun jewish x-mas at Amazing 66. I was with some non-chowish friends so dish selection was
pretty conservative. Highlights were spare ribs, lobster w/lo mein Under Neath (as spelled on menu), Flounder w/pork on top, chicken w/fried garlic and soy sauce. All were quite good. The pork, ginger, green onions and egg sauce under the lobster was exceptional. Couple duds were the salt baked pork cutlets w/chiles and the salt baked squid and scallops.
Looking forward to a return visit w/some more adventurous friends...
lovelynugget
Jan 25 2007, 10:40 PM
Can we add in New York Supermarket, under the Manhattan Bridge tucked in next to the bridge pylons, to best shopping, with Hong Kong Supermarket? Go through 75 E. Bway shopping arcade to the other side.
It is a wild and wondrous place.
Edit: I see SuzanneF was way ahead of me on this, so I second her motion.
Suzanne F
Jan 26 2007, 03:29 AM
Why, thank you!
Maurice Naughton
Jan 26 2007, 04:24 AM
There's a pasta maker near rue Mouffetard (do you all know of that dense and festive shopping street in the 5th Arrondissement? It's a must for making you cheerful on a rare Parisien winter day avec sunshine) who does excellent fluffy light potato gnocchi. And a Chinese traiteur who does excellent boneless pork rib meat laquee. The two make an excellent fusion supper, with a green salad and some toothpick-sized green beans, given a real quick butter-and-garlic saute.
lovelynugget
Jan 26 2007, 01:47 PM
QUOTE(Maurice Naughton @ Jan 25 2007, 11:24 PM)
There's a pasta maker near rue Mouffetard (do you all know of that dense and festive shopping street in the 5th Arrondissement? It's a must for making you cheerful on a rare Parisien winter day avec sunshine) who does excellent fluffy light potato gnocchi. And a Chinese traiteur who does excellent boneless pork rib meat laquee. The two make an excellent fusion supper, with a green salad and some toothpick-sized green beans, given a real quick butter-and-garlic saute.
Sounds delicious.
Wilfrid1
Feb 8 2007, 08:13 PM
QUOTE(omnivorette @ Nov 30 2006, 12:13 AM)
Congee, on the Bowery just north of Canal.
Any particular reason to go here?
omnivorette
Feb 8 2007, 08:16 PM
I think the congee is really good at Congee. Razor clams too, the last time I was there. It's less of a circus atmosphere than Congee Village.
It's confusing though. Congee Village has also opened a branch on the Bowery, which is not the Congee I'm talking about.
Seems like I should have read this thread before I went to Yeah Shanghai Sunday night as I was thinking about ordering the Aster Indicus and didn't. I've had some pretty good meals here in the past, and it was the perfect place for a group of 7 where some had no spice tolerance and limited interest in anything too "exotic" for them. But, overall, this meal was definitely a bit more pedestrian than I would have expected.
We had: both pork and pork/crab soup dumplings. You know what? I think I've decided to give up on soup dumplings until maybe I make it to China. The only ones that have ever wowed me are the ones my parents made once (but those, except for the soup-ness, didn't taste like anything else I've had although they swear they were like the ones they had in Shanghai). Scallion pancake - also not my thing, but Yeah Shanghai's was perfectly crisp and not oily.
Honey pork shoulder - tasty but too sweet as to be expected. Eggplant with meat in pot - this was quite good. I think I've had a different eggplant dish there in the past though that I liked better. Chicken with chestnuts - interesting - chestnuts had a distinctive wine/alcohol flavor but that pretty much dominated over any other flavors. Bean curd sheet w/veggie - just kind of bland and gelatinous. Maybe that's authentic, but I think I've had a different bean curd sheet thing there in the past that was more flavorful. Our last dish was ordered after someone saw them on another table: blue crab w/rice cake. Very flavorful sauce on the crab, but almost impossible to get at the meat without any way to crack them open.
I'll definitely give Yeah Shanghai another try, but I was kind of disappointed. The eggplant and the crab were the only real stand-outs. On the other hand, we sat there almost an hour before ordering waiting for some in our group who had the time wrong and they were very gracious about it!
Steven Dilley
Mar 7 2007, 04:51 PM
Thanks for the report.
I've had a couple meals across the street at New Green Bo recently and can recommend the cold wine chicken.
Wilfrid1
Jan 18 2008, 05:05 PM
Updates for 2008, please.
Here's the current listing:
CHINATOWN
East side of Broadway is the western boundary. Top boundary is Canal Street heading east, and then make a right into Pike Street down to the river.The bottom boundary is roughly where Brooklyn Bridge crashes to earth, and the turn around the top of City Hall Park until you hit Broadway again.
Sitting down mouthfuls
Best all-round Cantonese may be Cantoon Garden. Best roast pork and duck: Big Wong. Best scallion pancakes and soup dumplings: New Green Bo; also Shanghai Café. Best duck noodle soup: New Chao Chow (ask for won tons with it). Best cheap pork dumplings: Fried Dumpling on Mosco St (but consistency variable). Best dim sum: Golden Bridge. Best peking Duck: Peking Duck House. Best $1 sesame pancake (with pork, carrots, cilantro): Prosperity Dumplings.
Hop Lee, especially for steamed live chicken. Oriental Garden for seafood. Super Taste for special noodle soup; also Hong Kong Station (various locations) and Eastern Noodles. Yeah Shanghai for cold diced bean curd skin with steamed, diced "leafy green vegetable" (listed as "Aster Indicus" on the menu). Dim Sum GoGo for beef with preserved ginger, duck dumplings and the pork "burgers". The Malaysia restaurant for duck blood dishes and good Hunan chicken. Yummy Noodle for anything pork. New York Noodletown for softshells, baby roast pig and shrimp won ton soup, oyster and pork casserole and noodle soups. Hong Kong Station also mentioned for soup.
Standing up mouthfuls
Very cheap roast duck in a bun from various street vendors under Manhattan Bridge. Every kind of hot bun you can imagine from the Chatham Restaurant on Chatham Square (look for the red awning). Li Hua for big, inexpensive Korean lunchboxes.
Sweet mouthfuls
Best ice cream: Chinatown Ice Cream Factory. Best bakeries: Fay Da; Century Café. Deli Manjoo is a stall on the corner of Lafayette and Canal: fresh made lemon-custard-filled sponges.
Thirsty mouthfuls
Best dive: Winnie's (beware late evening college crowd karaoke). Best ginger cider: a grocery on Pell Street a few storefronts west of Joe's Shanghai - great for colds.
Best honeydew smoothies: Kong Wah Cake Company aka KW Cafe. Best coffee shop: Mei Lai Wah (also for roast pork buns)
Shopping mouthfuls
New York Supermarkt under the Manhattan Bridge. Deluxe Food market or Hong Kong supermarket for general food shopping. Bayard Meat Market for partridge, black silky chickens, quail, offal, Chinese sausages and wind-dried meats.
Ned
Jan 19 2008, 08:05 PM
We're HUGE fans of Shanghai Cafe at 100 Mott. HUGE.
Pingarina
Apr 17 2008, 04:44 PM
I had the beef stew rice noodle soup again at New Chao Chow yesterday. I had kind of been off of it for a while - more often than not the beef was dry (prob. cooked too fast). Yesterday's was superfantastic. Very tender, lots of tendon-y bits, and a good amount of the stew gravy had been added to the soup. With a squirt of lemon, some chili paste and vinegar to dip the meat in...the perfect bowl of food. Highly recommended.
StephanieL
Sep 14 2008, 09:50 PM
I'm really enjoying the Oyster Sauce Beef Jerky I got at New Beef King (89 Baxter Street). Moist and sweet, though not really "oyster" flavored. I'd wanted to get the fruit-flavored beef, but they were down to their last couple of strips.
Off the Broiler has an entry about them:
New Beef King
Suzanne F
Sep 14 2008, 10:14 PM
I think New Green Bo is now Nice Green Bo. Anyway, its name outside has changed.
StephanieL
Sep 15 2008, 01:44 PM
QUOTE(Suzanne F @ Sep 14 2008, 06:14 PM)
I think New Green Bo is now Nice Green Bo. Anyway, its name outside has changed.
Yes, that's their new name.
Lippy
Oct 29 2008, 09:39 PM
QUOTE(Wilfrid @ Jan 18 2008, 01:05 PM)
Updates for 2008, please.
Sweet mouthfuls
Best ice cream: Chinatown Ice Cream Factory. Best bakeries: Fay Da; Century Café. Deli Manjoo is a stall on the corner of Lafayette and Canal: fresh made lemon-custard-filled sponges.
I had an outstanding pastry at Double Crispy bakery on Grand Street near Bowery. It's the Macao-style custard tart, obviously influenced by traditional Portuguese egg yolk pastries and not for those opposed to fusion cuisine.
Suzanne F
Oct 29 2008, 10:44 PM
In other words, don't take Marcella Hazan there?
Wilfrid1
Jan 6 2009, 04:04 PM
2009 Revisions. Openings, closings, please let me know. For new readers, we are listing the best options within the neighborhood (note boundaries) under the given headings; we are not listing "destination" dining - i.e. more formal restaurants requiring reservations (or at least special planning). Please suggest only really good places in the neighborhood, not just anywhere that's okay: the standard will vary from neighborhood to neighborhood. It's not necessary to repeat suggestions already made above (since the last revision), unless I seem to have missed them when the 2009 draft gets posted.
QUOTE
CHINATOWN
East side of Broadway is the western boundary. Top boundary is Canal Street heading east, and then make a right into Pike Street down to the river.The bottom boundary is roughly where Brooklyn Bridge crashes to earth, and the turn around the top of City Hall Park until you hit Broadway again.
Sitting down mouthfuls
Best all-round Cantonese may be Cantoon Garden. Best roast pork and duck: Big Wong. Best scallion pancakes and soup dumplings: New Green Bo; also Shanghai Café. Best duck noodle soup: New Chao Chow (ask for won tons with it). Best cheap pork dumplings: Fried Dumpling on Mosco St (but consistency variable). Best dim sum: Golden Bridge. Best peking Duck: Peking Duck House. Best $1 sesame pancake (with pork, carrots, cilantro): Prosperity Dumplings. Also recommended, Shanghai Cafe.
Hop Lee, especially for steamed live chicken. Oriental Garden for seafood. Super Taste for special noodle soup; also Hong Kong Station (various locations) and Eastern Noodles. Yeah Shanghai for cold diced bean curd skin with steamed, diced "leafy green vegetable" (listed as "Aster Indicus" on the menu). Dim Sum GoGo for beef with preserved ginger, duck dumplings and the pork "burgers". The Malaysia restaurant for duck blood dishes and good Hunan chicken. Yummy Noodle for anything pork. New York Noodletown for softshells, baby roast pig and shrimp won ton soup, oyster and pork casserole and noodle soups. Hong Kong Station also mentioned for soup.
Standing up mouthfuls
Very cheap roast duck in a bun from various street vendors under Manhattan Bridge. Every kind of hot bun you can imagine from the Chatham Restaurant on Chatham Square (look for the red awning). Li Hua for big, inexpensive Korean lunchboxes.
Sweet mouthfuls
Best ice cream: Chinatown Ice Cream Factory. Best bakeries: Fay Da; Century Café. Deli Manjoo is a stall on the corner of Lafayette and Canal: fresh made lemon-custard-filled sponges.
Thirsty mouthfuls
Best dive: Winnie's (beware late evening college crowd karaoke). Best ginger cider: a grocery on Pell Street a few storefronts west of Joe's Shanghai - great for colds.
Best honeydew smoothies: Kong Wah Cake Company aka KW Cafe. Best coffee shop: Mei Lai Wah (also for roast pork buns)
Shopping mouthfuls
New York Supermarkt under the Manhattan Bridge. Deluxe Food market or Hong Kong supermarket for general food shopping. Bayard Meat Market for partridge, black silky chickens, quail, offal, Chinese sausages and wind-dried meats.
Suzanne F
Jan 6 2009, 06:17 PM
Didn't New Green Bo morph into Nice Green Bo? Ah, yes, I see StephanieL already noted that. And I think Yummy Noodle closed, but that needs confirmation.
We may have to add a category for Vietnamese food. In addition to Vietnam (Doyers), there seem to be a couple of new ones on Mott, just west of Chatham Square. Haven't tried any yet, though.
BTW: Should "Eastern Noodles" be "East Broadway Noodles"? Or is there another one I've missed?
There are also a few new handmade noodle shops -- we liked the one at 27 Eldridge (whose English name is not on their take-out menu); haven't tried any of the others.
I have a soft spot for Asia Market (shopping) as well as the other places named. And the Thai grocery on Mosco Street.
and Dumpling House on eldridge st isn't on here? i think their sesame pancakes and their chive and egg pancakes are my favorite.
Sneakeater
Jan 6 2009, 06:41 PM
Not Chinatown as defined. Look at the LES listings.
Also: it's no longer Dumpling House.
right - the borders! sorry. isn't it called excellent dumpling house? or vanessa's? cuz i think those names always were there.
Sneakeater
Jan 6 2009, 07:32 PM
BIG debate in that LES thread about whether or not it's always been Vanessa's.
StephanieL
Jan 6 2009, 07:44 PM
I think we can add Roasted Delights for their duck and spareribs. Sweets: I like Egg Custard King (on Mott Street; does the Grand & Chrystie branch count?). Shopping: Aji Ichiban (various locations) for snacks, and Ten Ren for tea.
Suzanne F
Jan 7 2009, 04:00 AM
QUOTE(djk @ Jan 6 2009, 02:24 PM)
right - the borders! sorry. isn't it called excellent dumpling house? or vanessa's? cuz i think those names always were there.
Excellent Dumpling House is on Lafayette just below Canal, right?
splinky
Jan 7 2009, 04:23 AM
QUOTE(Sneakeater @ Jan 6 2009, 02:32 PM)
BIG debate in that LES thread about whether or not it's always been Vanessa's.
vanessa owns the dumpling house (sometimes vanessa's dumpling house), tasty dumpling and vanessa's on 14th street. at 14th street she charges a premium. i tend to buy the frozen dumplings from the 14th street location.
Wilfrid1
Jan 7 2009, 05:41 PM
The 14th street location is good value for the neighborhood, though, and offers student deals which keep it busy. Thanks for the information.
QUOTE(Sneakeater @ Jan 6 2009, 01:41 PM)
Not Chinatown as defined. Look at the LES listings.
Also: it's no longer Dumpling House.
To be clear, they've renovated, expanded, raised their prices slightly, and are now calling themselves Vanessa's Dumpling House.
Wilfrid1
Feb 15 2009, 11:33 PM
2009 draft: final corrections, typos, etc please.QUOTE
CHINATOWN
East side of Broadway is the western boundary. Top boundary is Canal Street heading east, and then make a right into Pike Street down to the river.The bottom boundary is roughly where Brooklyn Bridge crashes to earth, and the turn around the top of City Hall Park until you hit Broadway again.
Sitting down mouthfuls
Best all-round Cantonese may be Cantoon Garden. Best roast pork and duck: Big Wong. Best scallion pancakes and soup dumplings: Nice Green Bo; also Shanghai Café. Best duck noodle soup: New Chao Chow (ask for won tons with it). Best cheap pork dumplings: Fried Dumpling on Mosco St (but consistency variable). Best dim sum: Golden Bridge. Best peking Duck: Peking Duck House. Best $1 sesame pancake (with pork, carrots, cilantro): Prosperity Dumplings. Also recommended, Shanghai Cafe. Roasted Delight for duck and spare ribs.
Hop Lee, especially for steamed live chicken. Oriental Garden for seafood. Super Taste for special noodle soup; also Hong Kong Station (various locations); East Corner Noodles; and the place at 27 Eldridge with no English name on the menu. Yeah Shanghai for cold diced bean curd skin with steamed, diced "leafy green vegetable" (listed as "Aster Indicus" on the menu). Dim Sum GoGo for beef with preserved ginger, duck dumplings and the pork "burgers". The Malaysia restaurant for duck blood dishes and good Hunan chicken. Yummy Noodle for anything pork. New York Noodletown for softshells, baby roast pig and shrimp won ton soup, oyster and pork casserole and noodle soups. Hong Kong Station also mentioned for soup.
Standing up mouthfuls
Very cheap roast duck in a bun from various street vendors under Manhattan Bridge. Every kind of hot bun you can imagine from the Chatham Restaurant on Chatham Square (look for the red awning). Li Hua for big, inexpensive Korean lunchboxes.
Sweet mouthfuls
Best ice cream: Chinatown Ice Cream Factory. Best bakeries: Fay Da; Century Café. Deli Manjoo is a stall on the corner of Lafayette and Canal: fresh made lemon-custard-filled sponges. Best egg custard: Egg Custard King.
Thirsty mouthfuls
Best dive: Winnie's (beware late evening college crowd karaoke). Best ginger cider: a grocery on Pell Street a few storefronts west of Joe's Shanghai - great for colds.
Best honeydew smoothies: Kong Wah Cake Company aka KW Cafe. Best coffee shop: Mei Lai Wah (also for roast pork buns)
Shopping mouthfuls
New York Supermarket under the Manhattan Bridge. Deluxe Food market or Hong Kong supermarket for general food shopping; also Asia Market. For Thai, the grocery on Mosco Street. Bayard Meat Market for partridge, black silky chickens, quail, offal, Chinese sausages and wind-dried meats. Tea Ren for tea. Aji Ichiban for candy and other snacks.
Wilfrid1
Feb 15 2009, 11:34 PM
Re Suzanne's suggestions above, I could find no listing for Eastern Noodles, so changed it to Broadway East. Yummy Noodles still has a menupages listing, so perhaps it's still open?
Suzanne F
Feb 16 2009, 02:22 AM
It's East Corner.
Wilfrid1
Feb 16 2009, 03:19 PM
Thanks.
Miguel Gierbolini
Feb 16 2009, 03:38 PM
New Green Bo is now called Nice Green Bo?
Sneakeater
Feb 16 2009, 04:32 PM
Yeah. I think they realized you can only be new for so long.
Wilfrid1
Feb 16 2009, 05:03 PM
Nice doesn't usually last either.
Wilfrid1
Jun 10 2009, 01:59 PM
From the White Swan bakery:
Can anyone help me with a description of the delicacies on the left there? In the center, a salted egg yolk, but what's the surrounding filling? Something like a root vegetable, made sweet and sticky?
Lippy
Jun 10 2009, 02:12 PM
Could it be red bean ?
Does anyone know the difference between a regular egg custard tart and Portuguese egg custard tart? The latter generally cost a bit more. More egg yolks?
Wilfrid1
Jun 10 2009, 02:28 PM
Some kind of bean could well be the answer.
Daniel
Jun 10 2009, 02:29 PM
I think Roasted Delights is better than Big Wong.
StephanieL
Jun 24 2009, 06:43 PM
Had a decent lunch at Noodle Village, a Hong Kong-style place (13 Mott, next to Wo Hop). No frills, just a good soup with plenty of noodles, fish cakes, and "beef balls" (think bouncy and springy, like fish balls/cakes) at a ridiculously low price.
Alas, the Egg Custard King branch on Mott is closed. I wonder if the Grand Street location is still open.
Suzanne F
Jun 24 2009, 08:31 PM
We has some good dim sum a few weeks ago at Jing Star, where 27 Sunrise used to be. 27 Sunrise is now located at 46 Bowery, where HSF used to be, iirc. You got that?
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