[Slapsie Maxie]

Interested to see what others think

Adam posted that he only tips if the service is actively good ( did I get that right Adam ) where I would tend to not tip only if the service is actively bad.

is this a cultural thing? Aussies being tight with a quid as we all know or do others follow this practice?

S

[Adam]

Well in Australia the staff get a decent wage, where as in the US tips are an essential part of the staffs income? So in the states I tip, but on a sliding scale depending on service etc. I wouldn't tip if the service is poor though.

In the UK I tip depending on service quality, how good a time I had outwith the service, how cute the waitress is etc. In France when I have tipped in places in smaller towns I have heard the staff discussing the fact that 'They must be Americans, as they gave you a tip'.

[Slapsie Maxie]

Adam, on Apr 8 2004, 04:32 AM, said:

how cute the waitress is etc.

ah, as long as you are not doing it on a shallow basis then :P

[Slapsie Maxie]

it takes a lot for me not to tip, I have to be honest

I know how poorly paid people the people are in the UK and the crap they get, so unless they do something really awful, I tend to leave about 15%

The only time I don't is when they charge service already and then leave the credit card slip open. Then I complain, tell them off and ask them to remove all the service

S

[Adam]

What is shallow about finding somebody attractive and acting on that, especially in an 'entertainment' context?

Next time I tip because I find the smile/light dusting of freckles on the nose/eyebows/outer curve of the left breast of my waitress attractive, should I write them a sonnet to indicate that I am not tipping extra for shallow reasons?

[Slapsie Maxie]

I am sure your wife appreciates your dedication to this element of the service industry

S

[Adam]

Your've not met Rebecca yet have you? She would agree with me and be even more inclined to tip based on the attractiveness of the staff.

I am going to get screwed by over priced wine and £20 dishes that I could cook better myself, then the experience of going for a meal out is largely for the atmosphere and entertainment qualities of the experience.

[Slapsie Maxie]

you'd hate Madrid.

There the rule applies "good wait staff have to be men over fifty, grumpy as fuck and wearing ill fitting white jackets"

personally, I don't give a flying toss if they look like Quasimodo as long as they are any good.

now, if they coo flattery as they serve ( " hey, have you been working out?") that kind of thing, then my tip ( er, in the sense of gratuity just so there is no misunderstanding) can be hugely inflated

[Adam]

OK, you have a thing for ugly fat Spanish men, what ever spins your dial, I'm not here to judge, but I see you get the point now.

One thing that should be made clear, no matter how attractive the individual, if their service is poor then no tip.

[Slapsie Maxie]

Adam, on Apr 8 2004, 05:33 AM, said:

One thing that should be made clear, no matter how attractive the individual, if their service is poor then no tip.

but you don't tip anyway, so it shouldn't matter

[Adam]

Well at least I don't hear the phrase "la bebida de hombres feos gordos" when ever I enter a restuarant.

[Slapsie Maxie]

Adam, on Apr 8 2004, 06:27 AM, said:

Well at least I don't hear the phrase "la bebida de hombres feos gordos" when ever I enter a restuarant.

no you hear

"look there is that fat aussie who doesn't tip"

[Adam]

"but we love him because he is not one of the stinking English. God how I despise them, coming here and buying our homes. Without making any attempt to intergrate into Spanish culture, just practicing their pathetic attrophied English lives here in the sun".

"Free drinks for the fat Australian! Hurrah! Hurrah!"

[Slapsie Maxie]

Adam, on Apr 8 2004, 07:53 AM, said:

English.

English?

[Adam]

Is this not what you people call yourselves? Or is half-Welsh better?