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Whole Foods And my love/hate relationship with it

#1 User is offline   Daisy 

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:06 AM

I have opined before that WF drives me crazy---it''s the only real supermarket in my neighborhood so I am pretty much forced to shop there. After my last two experiences there I have decided that WF is like a bad boyfriend--it seduces you with flash and promises and then proves to be totally unreliable, and, incapable of providing satisfaction.

How, at noon on a Saturday, can they be all out of cilantro, jalapeno peppers, flour tortillas ?? The weather was pretty rough yesterday, and there was no Super Bowl last night, so I doubt there was a run on these items. Most annoying. And last week they had no cumin seed and no Italian parsley. WTF??

And they continue, insidiously, to eliminate name brands and try to foist off their house brand which I wouldn't mind were most of the stuff not such utter crap. The breads are the absolute worst. They used to have a lot more Balthazar and Sullivan Street products on offer but their house bakery has swallowed the bread department.

I don't mind having to do a little legwork for fish and meat and cheese but it would be nice to be able to set off for WF secure in the knowledge that you could be guaranteed the damn bunch of celery you want.



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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:24 AM

I am in total agreement with you on whole foods. yuck
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE(Daisy @ Nov 16 2008, 07:06 PM) View Post
And they continue, insidiously, to eliminate name brands and try to foist off their house brand which I wouldn't mind were most of the stuff not such utter crap. The breads are the absolute worst. They used to have a lot more Balthazar and Sullivan Street products on offer but their house bakery has swallowed the bread department.


The switch to house brands has been going on for a year or so, although different stores are introducing it at different speeds. CEO John Mackey has mentioned the initiative on past conference calls. House brands are enormously profitable for Whole Foods, so expect to see more of them.

The WF superstore in West Orange NJ has been expanding its fish, butcher meat, aged meat, and kosher lines during the past few months, so that may be a local initiative. Lots more selection.


My only complaint was that if they need to charge me $30 because they're robbing the duck to pay the boar they might as well give me a more substantial portion of flour, water, and bits of meat.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:14 AM

Cilantro this time of year is flavorless anyway, so its lack in the store is not a problem. The only reason I have to go to the new WF near me is beer (surprisingly reasonable prices) and chicken. And maybe some meats. But I do not see it as a positive addition to the neighborhood. dry.gif

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:20 AM

They have ostrich eggs, though, whenever you need them!
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:20 AM

The transition to house brands seems to happen when any grocery store reaches a certain level of volume/success. In Manhattan, I've been dismayed by the same at Gourmet Garage, Fairway, Zabar's, Citarella...
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:17 AM

QUOTE(Daisy @ Nov 16 2008, 06:06 PM) View Post
I have opined before that WF drives me crazy---it''s the only real supermarket in my neighborhood so I am pretty much forced to shop there. After my last two experiences there I have decided that WF is like a bad boyfriend--it seduces you with flash and promises and then proves to be totally unreliable, and, incapable of providing satisfaction.


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Posted 17 November 2008 - 01:31 PM

WF in Louisville fits that description exactly (perhaps Stone does as well?). It started off gangbusters with excellent meats and cheeses and a fine variety of interesting organic vegetables. I pretty much skipped the interior aisles I cannot comment on the staples, but even the bakery offered our fine locally baked bread by Blue Dog. Fast forward six years later and everything has been dumbed down and scaled back. I don't even shop there anymore.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:47 PM

Here in my part of central jersey, WF is still the best place to shop for meat. For everything else including excellent fish selection and very decent vegetables i rely on Wegmans.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Suzanne F @ Nov 16 2008, 09:14 PM) View Post
Cilantro this time of year is flavorless anyway, so its lack in the store is not a problem. The only reason I have to go to the new WF near me is beer (surprisingly reasonable prices) and chicken. And maybe some meats. But I do not see it as a positive addition to the neighborhood. dry.gif

Is it too far for you to schlep down to Chelsea Market? At least there you can get produce and fish.

I don't buy fish at WF--as I said above that's something I don't mind doing legwork for. But it would be nice not to have to take an eight block hike to buy cilantro. Or pastry flour. Or any other staple they just happen to be out of. I was in WF one night not long ago and there was no low fat milk FFS.


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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:14 PM

But it's organic.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:32 PM

I was having this very same thought last night as I tried to buy applegate farms thick-sliced bacon and found to my surprise that they no longer carry it. However, they do carry the new Whole Foods brand thick-sliced bacon, which is more expensive than the applegate farms product. For all I know, applegate farms is doing the private labeling, but it sort of smacks of Wal-mart. And don't even get me started on their bread. Horrible. Unfortunately down here in atlanta, this is the best thing we've got.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:31 PM

But they're organic. Which means that they're better for you and the environment.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:56 PM

And local.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:07 PM

And sustainable.
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