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Country Cook
QUOTE (Ms J @ Mar 1 2005, 09:52 AM)
It's good to have you back, Adam.

Ditto, laughter is the best medicine laugh.gif
Wilfrid
QUOTE (macrosan @ Feb 28 2005, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Feb 28 2005, 07:50 PM)
Don't let macrosan scare you.  Smoking does have a temporary toxic effect on the cilia, and your respiratory system may just be sorting itself out. 

Hey Wilf, you sound just like a Phillip Morris PR handout laugh.gif "A temporary toxic effect" be fucked. It's a usually pemanent carcinogenic effect. And quite often a seriously deadly effect. And when not that a nastily debilitating effect. The idea that anything I said is scarier than the reality is ludicrous, and I can't imagine why you would want to suggest so.

QUOTE
However, tar does not deposit on the lining of the bronchus, and then "break up" and start moving around later on.  What has he been reading?

The answer is that I have been reading medical and professional papers. The following is one examople of a simply stated and quite clear and understandable example from WhyQuit.com:
QUOTE
When first quitting, one of the early physical repairs that start up is cilia production. Cilia are tiny hair-like projections that line your trachea and bronchus, constantly sweeping particulate matter out of your lungs. When you smoked, you first slowed down, then paralyzed and would eventually destroy cilia. This is why smokers often have more colds and flues, they wipe out the first line of defense against the incoming microbes causing these illnesses.
When a person stops smoking, usually within 72 hours or so, cilia starts to regenerate. The ex-smoker may start cleaning out the lung in a matter of days. One of the early symptoms first encountered is coughing and spitting out, this is mucous and trapped matter that was never being cleaned out efficiently while smoking but now has an escape route and mechanism to start sweeping it. Ugly but good, you are starting to clean out a lot of garbage in your lung. Much of the garbage is tobacco tar--tobacco tars that have a very distinct taste and smell.  Joel Spitzer, Professional Smoking Prevention and Cesstaion Consultant

Ciliastasis is not a carcinogenic effect, thank goodness. It's commonly found in all kinds of respiratory conditions in children and adults. The "tar" you are talking about has not been in the lung for years. That's all I was saying. Call me a pedant.
Cathy
QUOTE (GG Mora @ Feb 28 2005, 05:15 PM)
Dicing up pork for chili, I sliced right through my nail into the nail bed. Ouch. Fucking ouch.

I'm wincing for you, GG. I once did that while mincing habaneros, and then reflexively stuck the finger in my mouth. Double fucking ouch.
macrosan
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Mar 1 2005, 05:49 PM)
Call me a pedant.

You're a pedant laugh.gif

... but not a pedant's pedant ™ dry.gif
Tamar G

the guy in the neighboring cubicle likes to whistle. angry.gif

which also brings me to my second annoyance, this time with myself: I have tried very hard over the last few months to find the whistling charming, but it's still just grating. I guess I have to face the fact that I'm crotchety. sad.gif
Rose
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Mar 1 2005, 04:10 PM)
I guess I have to face the fact that I'm crotchety. sad.gif

No you don't! If he's not your boss tell him to fucking stop it. It's incredibly impolite and completely inappropriate in an office situation.
Wilfrid
You see? That's crotchety for you. biggrin.gif
macrosan
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Mar 1 2005, 10:10 PM)
the guy in the neighboring cubicle likes to whistle.

Oh, I really did misunderstand "cubicle". I'm a Brit, you know wink.gif
Tamar G
QUOTE (macrosan @ Mar 1 2005, 09:56 PM)
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Mar 1 2005, 10:10 PM)
the guy in the neighboring cubicle likes to whistle.

Oh, I really did misunderstand "cubicle". I'm a Brit, you know wink.gif


what is "cubicle" in brit-speak?
Wilfrid
"Cubicle" is used in the office context intended (we also say "carrel"), but I am afraid toilet stalls are also known as "cubicles", hence the dancing rooster's enthusiasm. wink.gif
NeroW
Micromanagers.
hollywood
QUOTE (NeroW @ Mar 1 2005, 03:49 PM)
Micromanagers.

Word.
macrosan
QUOTE (NeroW @ Mar 2 2005, 12:49 AM)
Micromanagers.

macrosanmanagers angry.gif
stovetop
QUOTE
Dicing up pork for chili, I sliced right through my nail into the nail bed. Ouch. Fucking ouch.
OUCH!! ^)&^(*&%(*%^
Man, I feel for you!
I chopped the end of my middle finger off I know how much that hurts.
steve
stovetop
QUOTE
Micromanagers. 


macrosanmanagers


Micromacromanagers
steve
flyfish
WHY oh WHY is it always the way that...

there's NEVER time to do it right

but

there's ALWAYS time to do it OVER???

(when it screws up, which it invariably does...)

Flyfish
Wilfrid
You are so right.

And there's also the opportunity to do the whole thing all over again because people can't remember what they did with the results the first time around. angry.gif
JPW
NAEP!!!!!!!! angry.gif

Urge to kill rising.......
First the fucking programmers and now the statisticians.
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Daisy
I'm getting a migraine. I can feel it, creeping up on me. sad.gif
StephanieL
QUOTE (Daisy @ Mar 3 2005, 02:57 PM)
I'm getting a migraine. I can feel it, creeping up on me. sad.gif

I've been getting a lot of those lately. If this keeps up I'll have to get my sinuses looked at.
g.johnson
QUOTE (macrosan @ Mar 2 2005, 03:35 AM)
QUOTE (NeroW @ Mar 2 2005, 12:49 AM)
Micromanagers.

macrosanmanagers angry.gif

How is Mrs Macrosan?
JPW
QUOTE (Daisy @ Mar 3 2005, 02:57 PM)
I'm getting a migraine. I can feel it, creeping up on me. sad.gif

See post above yours.

Might just avoid one today but I can feel it back there prodding for a weakness.
hillvalley
Supervisors who don't do their job,
tell me that I am doing mine wrong even though THEY were supposed to train me and never did
both of which lead to my getting the crap beat out of me (yes literally) for the last two days.


Oh, and people who drive with their turn signals on for blocks and blocks.
tanabutler
QUOTE (hillvalley @ Mar 3 2005, 04:47 PM)
Supervisors who don't do their jobs...which lead[s] to my getting the crap beat out of me (yes literally) for the last two days.

Do you work for colonic irrigationists?
peppyre
A micromanaging-manic depressive-suicidal-doesn't-know-how-to-manage-complaining-manager angry.gif angry.gif

My boss on a weekly basis "I hate my job! I can't take it anymore, I'm leaving. That's it, I quit."

The next week; "I have another migraine, I can't deal with this pain anymore. That's it, I'm going home and taking a bunch of pills and just going to sleep." (I suffer from chronic daily migraines and never ever complain about them. I have a headache of some sort every single day. Bite me bitch!) This happens a couple times a month and has apparently been going on for years. The only really sad thing, she did attempt this 20 years ago and was in a coma for something like a month.

The next day, everything is peachy with her, but she's in my office every five minutes; "Is this schedule done? Have you called so-and-so? have you emailed.,....? Have you sent memo's?"

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH angry.gif
Vanessa
FFS the weather angry.gif angry.gif

v
akiko
Bending over to fill my water bottle at work just now, I felt a majorly sharp pain directly in my lower spine.... I had to walk very very slowly back to my office and now can only stand, or sit all the way back in my chair... anything that requires an angle is causing me pain. Did I just "throw my back out"? Does this go away? Or do I need to see a doctor? Please don't say I need to see a doctor, its such a pain to get appointments in this country.

Vanessa
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 10:49 AM)
Bending over to fill my water bottle at work just now, I felt a majorly sharp pain directly in my lower spine.... I had to walk very very slowly back to my office and now can only stand, or sit all the way back in my chair... anything that requires an angle is causing me pain. Did I just "throw my back out"? Does this go away? Or do I need to see a doctor? Please don't say I need to see a doctor, its such a pain to get appointments in this country.

Akiko

I've done that in the past with almost exactly that movement. My personal experience is that this is a sign that you have been doing something wrong with your back over a period of time that you are perhaps not aware of which has made it susceptible - perhaps your office chair is not right? It gets better with time but could be some months before you are back to normal.

Also, I have learned to sense when my back is about to 'go' like that and stop the movement that sets it off so there is only the tiniest twinge rather than that full ping of pain.

v
akiko
QUOTE
I've done that in the past with almost exactly that movement. My personal experience is that this is a sign that you have been doing something wrong with your back over a period of time that you are perhaps not aware of which has made it susceptible - perhaps your office chair is not right? It gets better with time but could be some months before you are back to normal.

Also, I have learned to sense when my back is about to 'go' like that and stop the movement that sets it off so there is only the tiniest twinge rather than that full ping of pain.


V,

That makes oh so much sense. I have been complaining about my back for a week now. We had this "work environment" tutorial thing last week and they insisted that the correct way to sit in your chair is all the way into the back of it with your feet flat on the floor... I never normally sit this way. And now that I have been... my back has been killing me.

WAH! sad.gif
Vanessa
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE
I've done that in the past with almost exactly that movement. My personal experience is that this is a sign that you have been doing something wrong with your back over a period of time that you are perhaps not aware of which has made it susceptible - perhaps your office chair is not right? It gets better with time but could be some months before you are back to normal.

Also, I have learned to sense when my back is about to 'go' like that and stop the movement that sets it off so there is only the tiniest twinge rather than that full ping of pain.


V,

That makes oh so much sense. I have been complaining about my back for a week now. We had this "work environment" tutorial thing last week and they insisted that the correct way to sit in your chair is all the way into the back of it with your feet flat on the floor... I never normally sit this way. And now that I have been... my back has been killing me.

WAH! sad.gif

Akiko,

Knowing your dimensions, it doesn't surprise me that the advice from the so-called expert was inappropriate for your needs. Even if you find a chair that allows you to sit as instructed (being short-arsed myself I find this a problem), you would then most likely be wrongly positioned in relation to your desk and computer.

Do what works best for you would be my advice.

v

Ms J
You should be able to get an appointment with a oesteopath fairly quickly. My husband has been seeing someone down in Sydders who's been fantastic - he does a combo of oestopathy, physio and accupuncture that's done wonders for B's back. I think the average cost is around £25 per session.
clb
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 11:19 AM)

WAH!  sad.gif

Poor you, akiko. Hefty painkillers and gentle stretches may be necessary.

clb
Vanessa
Violent thunderstorm after the snow this morning ohmy.gif

v
bloviatrix
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH! sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.
akiko
Everyone giving me advice and sympathy is making me feel better already smile.gif

[/QUOTE]You should be able to get an appointment with a oesteopath fairly quickly. My husband has been seeing someone down in Sydders who's been fantastic - he does a combo of oestopathy, physio and accupuncture that's done wonders for B's back. I think the average cost is around £25 per session.
[QUOTE]

I may have to get the details from you tonight. sad.gif

You all should see me trying to walk. I can't help but laugh at myself, which makes everyone in the office think I'm not just in pain but crazy...
Vanessa
There is (or was) a School of Osteopathy somewhere not far from the bottom of Charing X Rd where you have a chance of an emergency appointment - I seem to remember a boss of mine doing that years ago when his back suddenly went as we were meant to be driving down to South Wales. I'll do a bit of digging now to see if I can find details. I'm not convinced that osteopathy will help this, I suspect time is the healer, but you never know.

v
Vanessa
Akiko

This sounds perfect for you!

v
g.johnson
QUOTE (bloviatrix @ Mar 4 2005, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH!  sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.

Naproxen sodium (Aleve in the US) has become my painkiller of choice for musculoskeletal problems (gout, arthritis). Take two at the first sign and then one every twelve hours or so. Magic.
Wilfrid
Yes, naproxen for arthritis. Of course, I wouldn't know about gout. tongue.gif
g.johnson
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Mar 4 2005, 11:21 AM)
Yes, naproxen for arthritis. Of course, I wouldn't know about gout. tongue.gif

Be very grateful.
Tamar G
QUOTE (g.johnson @ Mar 4 2005, 04:10 PM)
QUOTE (bloviatrix @ Mar 4 2005, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH!   sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.

Naproxen sodium (Aleve in the US) has become my painkiller of choice for musculoskeletal problems (gout, arthritis). Take two at the first sign and then one every twelve hours or so. Magic.

3 works better than 2. smile.gif

flyfish
Why oh Why... (a continuing series of work-related gripes)

are the superiors who assign you a task and then neglect to share pertinent information with you, always so keen to criticize you for not doing the task the way THEY would have done it (with their superior knowledge of the subject at hand, which you first hear about AFTER you complete the job)?

Fly
Country Cook
QUOTE (flyfish @ Mar 4 2005, 05:10 PM)
Why oh Why... (a continuing series of work-related gripes)

are the superiors who assign you a task and then neglect to share pertinent information with you, always so keen to criticize you for not doing the task the way THEY would have done it (with their superior knowledge of the subject at hand, which you first hear about AFTER you complete the job)?

Fly

A common occurence unfortunatley, I have had the same woes drafting letters for supervisors, a some point you have to say do it yourself! angry.gif
tanabutler
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 02:49 AM)
Bending over to fill my water bottle at work just now, I felt a majorly sharp pain directly in my lower spine.... I had to walk very very slowly back to my office and now can only stand, or sit all the way back in my chair... anything that requires an angle is causing me pain. Did I just "throw my back out"? Does this go away? Or do I need to see a doctor? Please don't say I need to see a doctor, its such a pain to get appointments in this country.

You threw your back out, yes. That happened to me the first time when I was making the bed, when I was 19. The chiropractor was just the thing for me then, and on the rare occasions when it's happened since.

StephanieL
QUOTE (Country Cook @ Mar 4 2005, 12:13 PM)
QUOTE (flyfish @ Mar 4 2005, 05:10 PM)
Why oh Why... (a continuing series of work-related gripes)

are the superiors who assign you a task and then neglect to share pertinent information with you, always so keen to criticize you for not doing the task the way THEY would have done it (with their superior knowledge of the subject at hand, which you first hear about AFTER you complete the job)?

Fly

A common occurence unfortunatley, I have had the same woes drafting letters for supervisors, a some point you have to say do it yourself! angry.gif

My boss at the last company, who reviewed every single project folder that passed through the editorial department, constantly kicked stuff back to folks because we didn't edit things the way she would have. Unfortunately, it led to me picking up all her odd editing quirks, which I'm only now beginning to shake.
bloviatrix
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Mar 4 2005, 11:30 AM)
QUOTE (g.johnson @ Mar 4 2005, 04:10 PM)
QUOTE (bloviatrix @ Mar 4 2005, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH!   sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.

Naproxen sodium (Aleve in the US) has become my painkiller of choice for musculoskeletal problems (gout, arthritis). Take two at the first sign and then one every twelve hours or so. Magic.

3 works better than 2. smile.gif

Naproxen isn't for everyone -- it can be very irritating on the stomach.

Muscle relaxants (cyclobenzaprine) are also wonderful for bad backs. Problem is, you need an Rx for them. Plus they knock you out so any productivity goes out the window.
Stone
QUOTE (g.johnson @ Mar 4 2005, 11:10 AM)
QUOTE (bloviatrix @ Mar 4 2005, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH!   sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.

Naproxen sodium (Aleve in the US) has become my painkiller of choice for musculoskeletal problems (gout, arthritis). Take two at the first sign and then one every twelve hours or so. Magic.

Although I'm not nearly old enough to have had gout, I have. I recall that the anti-inflammatory effect of Alleve doesn't kick in unless you've had 6 or so pills.
Orik
QUOTE (tanabutler @ Mar 4 2005, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 02:49 AM)
Bending over to fill my water bottle at work just now, I felt a majorly sharp pain directly in my lower spine.... I had to walk very very slowly back to my office and now can only stand, or sit all the way back in my chair... anything that requires an angle is causing me pain.  Did I just "throw my back out"?  Does this go away?  Or do I need to see a doctor?  Please don't say I need to see a doctor, its such a pain to get appointments in this country.

You threw your back out, yes. That happened to me the first time when I was making the bed, when I was 19. The chiropractor was just the thing for me then, and on the rare occasions when it's happened since.

Isn't chiropractor bulgarian for quack?

Anyway, it'll go away in a few days, whether you do anything about it or not.
hillvalley
QUOTE (tanabutler @ Mar 3 2005, 08:44 PM)
QUOTE (hillvalley @ Mar 3 2005, 04:47 PM)
Supervisors who don't do their jobs...which lead[s] to my getting the crap beat out of me (yes literally) for the last two days.

Do you work for colonic irrigationists?

With all the sh*^ I deal with you would think so. Nah, I'm just a special ed. teacher.
g.johnson
QUOTE (Stone @ Mar 4 2005, 02:25 PM)
QUOTE (g.johnson @ Mar 4 2005, 11:10 AM)
QUOTE (bloviatrix @ Mar 4 2005, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (akiko @ Mar 4 2005, 06:19 AM)
WAH!  sad.gif

Ibuprofen and heat. You'll be pain free in no time.

Naproxen sodium (Aleve in the US) has become my painkiller of choice for musculoskeletal problems (gout, arthritis). Take two at the first sign and then one every twelve hours or so. Magic.

Although I'm not nearly old enough to have had gout, I have. I recall that the anti-inflammatory effect of Alleve doesn't kick in unless you've had 6 or so pills.

With me, three seems sufficient. My gout is relatively mild.
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